|With thanks for photograph to Carlton Blaxill
This may be Hendon depot, the tram, car No 2239 has Hendon on the front. The trolleybus second from the left, the one behind the post has North Finchley. Trolleybus route 645 was operated by Hendon, and Finchley depot from 2 August 1936. Later records do not show Hendon trolleybus depot, but Colindale. It seems Hendon change its name to save confusion with Hendon bus garage after the end of tram operation.
Is this the picture of a trolleybus for trams change over? Or were trams and trolleybuses run from the depot together for a while, just like Holloway, and Wandsworth? Was this a trolleybus for trams conversion day? Was it a depot that ran trams and trolleybuses for a while like Holloway and Wandsworth? Is it Hendon, Colindale or somewhere else? If you have answers to any of these questions or other information please contact firstname.lastname@example.org
Some information on the vehicles in the photograph are, from left to right:-
Ex MET 'F' class tram 2259. The F class was just five cars. The last of the C/1 class were built with fully enclosed top decks to make the class F cars. The blind display reads HENDON
Trolleybus 229. CUL 229. The blind display reads EXTRA on one line and SPECIAL on the next..
Trolleybus 209. CUL 209. The blind reads NORTH FINCHLEY.
The next trolleybus standing outside looks like 302.
The four wheel trolleybus, the only one on the fleet is number 63. On the window looking out on the platform the registration plate can be seen. AXU 189. The side blind which is wound up until the white at the end can be seen is displaying ISLEWORTH SPRING GROVE. The rear blind is showing SPECIAL.
|Hendon was one of six depots which were renamed when the trolleybus
departmet came into Central Buses the name change taking effect from 12
Depots involved were:-
Sutton to Carshalton
Geoff Bannister says:-
|The first trolleybuses in London were introduced by London United Tramways
(LUT) on 16 May 1931 to replace trams on some of their lightly used routes.
They did not however plan to give up tram operation altogether for they
were about to introduce a new up to date luxury tram known as the Feltham,
named after where it was built.
When London Transport took over they decided to replace all trams with trolleybuses. By 1940 the whole of North London trams had been converted except for the routes through the Kingsway subway. The war interrupted the conversion of South London tram routes, which after the war were converted to motor bus instead of the intended trolleybuses.
The only South East London trolleybuses were two routes 696/698 in Woolwich - Bexleyheath which were separated from all other routes. The nearest were in the Croydon, Crystal Palace area which were joined to the rest of the network. Three routes also visited North Woolwich, but that counted as East London.
|Hendon Tram Depot was converted to Trolleybuses in 1936, which dates
your picture. It was renamed to Colindale (CE) as I said to avoid confusion
with Hendon Bus Garage (AE). Interestingly both Colindale and Hendon were
associated with the Metropolitan Electric Tramways Co since Hendon Bus
Garage was the base of the Tramways (M E T) Omnibus Company. and Colindale
was the major depot of the MET (Of course they were all owned by London
and Suburban Transport which also owned L U T, the LGOC and the District
Colindale was the scene of the first trolleybus experiments in London, I think in 1909. And. in an ironic twist, it was closed in the trolleybus replacement scheme and used as the trolleybus scrapyard, much as Penhall Rd had been used for the trams.
Information with thank to:- email@example.com (Chris 'fufas' Grace)
|Your writer about trolley buses in the Hendon area is almost certainly
As some one who was born in 1936 & lived in west Hendon I remember
the trolley buses well. as far as I recall there were two No s the 645
was one that we used quite a lot & the other one went to willsden but
not exactly sure of its No. The picture of the garage is almost certainly at
colindale it is as I remember it. it stood opposite the Fridgedare factory.
drivers would try & beat the factory hooter to avoid stopping, although I
don't recall a tram on the Edgware road . I do remember as a young
man seeing where the tram lines used to be still visible after some
years. I do have a photo of a No 202 tram passing west Hendon
Broadway in 1912.
With regard to scrapping the trolley buses he's right again as I was one
of the people who bought some plywood & a couple of seats from
Their only short coming was that they always came in convoy as they
could.nt overtake each other
We would catch a 645 in west Hendon to Barnet church however I don't
remember if it was a special service or if we changed at Tallyho Corner
in Finchley as this was one place where a lot of trolleys terminated.
The interesting thing was at Barnet church the conductor had to get out
the long pole from under the trolley to detach the supply arm the trolley
would then drive around the church on its batteries and hook it up again
no mean feat when you consider the height of a trolleybus.
one thing most people have forgot is how fast they could go
Hendon bus garage was in babington road old Hendon buses & green
lines only. one garage that still exists of course is crickelwood & that's
been there ever since I can remember maybe they had the trams.
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